Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/17/1998 08:40 AM House FIN

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             HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                           
   April 17, 1998                                                              
                          8:40 A.M.                                            
                                                                               
TAPE HFC 98 - 111, Side 1.                                                     
TAPE HFC 98 - 111, Side 2.                                                     
                                                                               
CALL TO ORDER                                                                  
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley called the House Finance Committee meeting                     
to order at 8:40 A.M.                                                          
                                                                               
PRESENT                                                                        
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley   Representative Kelly                                         
Co-Chair Therriault   Representative Kohring                                   
Representative J. Davies  Representative Martin                                
Representative G. Davis  Representative Moses                                  
Representative Foster  Representative Mulder                                   
Representative Grussendorf                                                     
                                                                               
ALSO PRESENT                                                                   
                                                                               
                                                                               
SUMMARY                                                                        
                                                                               
HB 325 An Act making appropriations for the operating                          
and loan program expenses of state government,                                 
for certain programs, and to capitalize funds;                                 
making appropriations under art. IX, sec. 17(c),                               
Constitution of the State of Alaska, from the                                  
constitutional budget reserve fund; and providing                              
for an effective date.                                                         
                                                                               
 HB 325 was HELD in Committee for further                                      
consideration.                                                                 
                                                                               
HB 326 An Act making appropriations for the operating                          
and capital expenses of the state's integrated                                 
comprehensive mental health program; and                                       
providing for an effective date.                                               
                                                                               
 HB 326 was HELD in Committee for further                                      
consideration.                                                                 
                                                                               
HB 406 An Act relating to subsistence uses of fish and                         
game.                                                                          
                                                                               
 CS HB 406 (FIN) was reported out of Committee                                 
with a "do not pass" recommendation and with                                   
fiscal notes by the Alaska Court System, the                                   
Department of Law and the Department of Fish and                               
Game.                                                                          
HOUSE BILL NO. 406                                                             
                                                                               
"An Act relating to subsistence uses of fish and                               
game."                                                                         
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault distributed the packet of fiscal notes                     
for CS HB 406 (FIN).  He noted that he was working on an                       
amendment, to be presented on the House Floor, which would                     
fiscally alter non-subsistence areas.                                          
                                                                               
Representative Mulder MOVED to adopt the proposed fiscal                       
notes.  Representative Foster strongly OBJECTED.  He                           
commented that the amount of money requested in the fiscal                     
notes should be more rationally disbursed throughout the                       
State.  Representative Foster objected to the complexity of                    
the fiscal notes and the amount of government                                  
responsibility required by the proposed legislation.  He                       
urged the Committee to address the needs of the people more                    
directly.                                                                      
                                                                               
Representative Grussendorf remarked that the proposed                          
legislation does not address the reality of the problem,                       
and hence, the fiscal notes will not address a probable                        
situation.                                                                     
                                                                               
A roll call vote was taken on the motion to adopt the                          
fiscal notes.                                                                  
                                                                               
IN FAVOR: Mulder, G. Davis, Kelly, Martin, Therriault,                         
Hanley                                                                         
OPPOSED:  Moses, J. Davies, Grussendorf, Foster                                
                                                                               
Representative Kohring was not present for the vote.                           
                                                                               
The MOTION PASSED (6-4).                                                       
                                                                               
CS HB 406 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with a "do                       
not pass" recommendation and with fiscal notes by the                          
Department of Law, the Court System and six notes by the                       
Department of Fish and Game.                                                   
HOUSE BILL NO. 325                                                             
                                                                               
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and                            
loan program expenses of state government, for certain                         
programs, and to capitalize funds; making                                      
appropriations under art. IX, sec. 17(c), Constitution                         
of the State of Alaska, from the constitutional budget                         
reserve fund; and providing for an effective date."                            
                                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 326                                                             
                                                                               
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and                            
capital expenses of the state's integrated                                     
comprehensive mental health program; and providing for                         
an effective date."                                                            
                                                                               
UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                           
                                                                               
Representative Mulder MOVED UA #1(a).  [Copy on File].  He                     
noted that the net result would be to shift $1 million                         
dollars into the University's budget, taking $850 thousand                     
dollars from the Department of Corrections and $150                            
thousand dollars from Alaska Court System.  He added, a                        
shift to the Department of Corrections would eliminate four                    
BRU's.                                                                         
                                                                               
Representative Grussendorf MOVED to divide the question.                       
Co-Chair Therriault OBJECTED.  He believed that the Alaska                     
Court System had some flexibility resulting from the                           
retirement system savings.                                                     
                                                                               
Representative Grussendorf commented that in a previous                        
Committee meeting, $1.2 million dollars had been authorized                    
for Court security with an assumption that the Court could                     
find other money to comply with the mandate issued by the                      
Chief Justice.  He voiced concern that the Court System was                    
now being treated like all other departments.                                  
Representative Grussendorf OBJECTED to the last portion of                     
the amendment.                                                                 
                                                                               
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                      
                                                                               
IN FAVOR: J. Davies, Grussendorf, Foster, Moses,                               
Hanley                                                                         
OPPOSED: Mulder, G. Davis, Kelly, Kohring, Martin,                             
Therriault                                                                     
                                                                               
The MOTION FAILED (5-6).                                                       
                                                                               
Representative Grussendorf emphasized that this was not an                     
appropriate vehicle to address problems of the University.                     
He agreed that the University should receive the money they                    
requested, while pointing out that the Courts have no                          
choice in their caseload.                                                      
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies explained that the amendment put                      
him in a difficult place.  He noted that he supported the                      
University's request, however, this amount would not be                        
enough funding.  The money being placed into the University                    
budget does not even fund one of the contracts.  He advised                    
that he did not support the deletion to the Court System.                      
                                                                               
In response to Representative Martin, Representative J.                        
Davies discussed the vast increases to court cases which                       
are directly related to domestic violence and abuse of                         
children.                                                                      
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley pointed out that funding had been placed in                    
the front section for one of the contracts.                                    
                                                                               
A roll call vote was taken on the motion to adopt UA #1(a).                    
                                                                               
IN FAVOR: J. Davies, G. Davis, Kelly, Kohring, Martin,                         
Mulder, Therriault                                                             
OPPOSED: Foster, Grussendorf, Moses, Hanley                                    
                                                                               
The MOTION FAILED (7-4).                                                       
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies MOVED to adopt UA #1.  Co-Chair                       
Hanley OBJECTED.  Representative J. Davies stated that the                     
amendment would fund salary increments for non-covered                         
employees commensurate with employees covered by collective                    
bargaining agreements.                                                         
                                                                               
Representative Foster commented that he had been threatened                    
that if he did not vote for the proposed amendment, the                        
University could close the Nome extension branch.  He                          
voiced offense that the Bush continues to be "pushed"                          
around when matters of education are on the table.                             
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies clarified for the record that it                      
was not his intent to reduce funding for the rural campus                      
budget.  He noted that he was an advocate in keeping the                       
community campus offices.  He had at one time, suggested                       
changing the name of the institution to the University of                      
Alaska Community College system.  Representative Kelly                         
acknowledged that was true.                                                    
                                                                               
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                      
                                                                               
IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Kelly, Moses, J. Davies,                                
Therriault                                                                     
OPPOSED: G. Davis, Foster, Kohring, Martin, Mulder,                            
Hanley                                                                         
                                                                               
The MOTION FAILED (5-6).                                                       
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies MOVED to adopt UA #2.  [Copy on                       
File].  Co-Chair Hanley OBJECTED.  Representative J. Davies                    
noted that the amendment would fully fund the CEA contract                     
through June 30, 1999.                                                         
                                                                               
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                      
                                                                               
IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Kelly, Moses, J. Davies,                                
Therriault                                                                     
OPPOSED: Foster, Kohring, Martin, Mulder, G. Davis,                            
Hanley                                                                         
                                                                               
The MOTION FAILED (5-6).                                                       
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies MOVED to adopt UA #3.  [Copy on                       
File].  Co-Chair Hanley OBJECTED.  Representative J. Davies                    
commented that the amendment would fully fund the United                       
Academics contract through June 30, 1999.                                      
                                                                               
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                      
                                                                               
IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Kelly, Moses, G. Davis,                                 
Therriault                                                                     
OPPOSED: Kohring, Martin, Mulder, G. Davis, Foster,                            
Hanley                                                                         
                                                                               
The MOTION FAILED (5-6).                                                       
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies MOVED to adopt UA #4.  [Copy on                       
File].  Representative Foster OBJECTED.  Representative J.                     
Davies explained that it is the intent of the Legislature                      
that the University of Alaska Board of Regents honor all                       
collective bargaining agreements in effect through June 30,                    
1999.                                                                          
                                                                               
Representative Martin pointed out that the Legislature had                     
placed the University in a bind by increasing the                              
collective bargaining agreement and then not to appropriate                    
funding to cover that amount.  Co-Chair Hanley noted that                      
he anticipated approval language in the budget for all                         
contracts with funding appropriated.  The University has                       
negotiated contracts which will cost them more than the                        
$1.6 million dollars, and they will be receiving a                             
Retirement Incentive Program (RIP) savings.                                    
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies stated that the Legislature has                       
been ambiguous in allocations to the University.  Co-Chair                     
Hanley recommended that the clearer that the Legislature                       
makes the allocation designee, the less likely there would                     
be litigation.                                                                 
                                                                               
Representative Martin recommended that the language "as                        
appropriated" be inserted.  Representative Foster                              
reiterated his concern that the Bush areas have been                           
"stripped" to address the pay raises for Fairbanks campus.                     
                                                                               
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                      
                                                                               
IN FAVOR: Martin, Moses, Mulder, J. Davies, G. Davis,                          
Grussendorf, Hanley, Therriault                                                
OPPOSED:  Kelly, Kohring, Foster                                               
                                                                               
The MOTION PASSED (8-3).                                                       
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies MOVED to adopt UA #5 as a                             
conceptual amendment.  [Copy on File].  Co-Chair Hanley                        
OBJECTED.  He explained there is money in the front and                        
back section of the budget for that concern.  The                              
understanding is that the total amount for the University                      
be reflective of the Board of Regents request of $171                          
million dollars.                                                               
                                                                               
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                      
                                                                               
IN FAVOR: Moses, J. Davies, Grussendorf, Kelly,                                
Therriault                                                                     
OPPOSED: Kohring, Martin, Mulder, G. Davis, Foster,                            
Hanley                                                                         
                                                                               
The MOTION FAILED (5-6).                                                       
                                                                               
(Tape Change HFC 98- 111, Side 2).                                             
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies MOVED to adopt UA #6.  [Copy on                       
File].  He stated that the amendment would fully fund the                      
Governor's request for the University of Alaska at $1.342                      
million dollars.  Co-Chair Hanley OBJECTED.                                    
                                                                               
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                      
                                                                               
IN FAVOR: Moses, J. Davies, Grussendorf, Kelly,                                
Therriault                                                                     
OPPOSED: Martin, Mulder, G. Davis, Foster, Kohring,                            
Hanley                                                                         
                                                                               
The MOTION FAILED (5-6).                                                       
                                                                               
HBG 325 and HB 326 was HELD in Committee for further                           
consideration.                                                                 
ADJOURNMENT                                                                    
                                                                               
The meeting adjourned at 9:45 a.m.                                             
H.F.C. 7 4/17/98 a.m.                                                          

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